here is some xx78 2413 superlites, i wish i knew for sure if there was any difference from the xx78 super slam, i found some i would like to buy.
I believe they are the same. If I'm not mistaken, the Super slam was just a marketing thing to use chuck Adams name on the shafts? I know i have some that have super slam with his picture on one side and super light on the other.
So I had something weird happen today while shooting my hunting arrows. (2315). I have two sets of them, one xx75 and one xx78. The 78's were consistently hitting 3-4" higher than the camo hunter 75's at the same ranges. Has anyone ever experienced this? It was almost as if the 78's were flying faster than the 75's. Anyone else ever seen this? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
the xx75 is a softer alloy than the xx78, but they weigh the same.the xx75 will flex more, thats the only difference.fletch a few with feathers and try that.you may just need to shoot one or the other.
They are the same set up. Same tips, inserts nocks and feathers. They weigh within 2 grains of each other. I was really confused while shooting. I am wondering if I was the influencing factor and not the arrow (ie dropping bow arm or peaking to watch the arrow etc.) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I started shooting some old 2219s with 5 inch feathers. They shot great and there was hardly any difference between my carbons at 20 yards and the 2219s at 20 yards... maybe 2-3 inches right. I did try one with a Quik Spin on it... not so good there. One with 5 inch vanes also shot pretty good. I was shooting an old Snuffer and hitting tennis balls at 40 with feathers. Wow! Those things really silence a bow and I haven't even tune checked it yet. Though, I do think it has to be really close to right. Now... I shoot an Apache rest and could probably cut off 2 inches... I don't think I will; but what do you all think about that? It would completely change my spine but increase FOC. 2219s are actually slightly weak for my draw length and weight.
I ordered a dozen Legacy 2219s, feathers, wraps and nocks. I will build them this week. I expect the completed arrow to come in a shade under 600 grains total. This should keep me shooting a bit over 220 fps with COC Muzzy SC Phantoms.
I shot dozens of aluminum arrows over the years. But I'll stick with carbons for now. Both are good arrows
Wow... I tried switching back to fingers and a flipper. My accuracy was iffy at best. Put the drop away back on and retuned with that. Wow... The Hoyt is shooting bullets... and it is so quiet it is unbelievable. I am now wishing I had never seen a carbon... wow! Get one good 2219 (not a Gamegetter) and try it... I dare you.
Muzzy, Good luck with this setup, are you going to use this for hunting this year? Sounds like a lot of KE. ~Bill
I would suggest... get the correct spine... a single arrow or two. 5 inch feathers and shoot it some with field points and broadheads. See how you like it. It took me several different combinations to determine that the best course was to mix the old with the new... drop away and release... with heavy feathered XX75 2219 arrows. It's amazing how small the difference in your POI will be. Also... many of the guys are probably comparing carbon performance with the setups they now have against aluminum performance with the bows they used to have. If such is the case... that's apples and oranges. I'd say... just give it a try... if you don't like it... I'll take any 30 inch 2219 Legacy arrows off your hands.
