I don't think you did anything wrong. I'm guessing from what you've said here and what can remember thought you said you had your CCW permit, so the fact you had a firearm is not a issue. As far as when the cops showed up sounds like you did what your supposed to do there too, as everyone else had said at first they were probably just trying to figure out what was goin on so the initial attitude is expected.
Sota, I do not disagree that complexity of the situation is raised but he had justification for being there. He never entered the premises and posted outside. Had the assailant exited the house to follow his wife with a weapon the situation could have moved to his premises and endangered his family if the target was there. A man on the streets with a weapon looking to do harm is enough cause for him to ensure the situation does not escalate. I understand letting the police handle the matter but sometimes we as citizens need to setup to protect ourselves. Especially since most police are overworked and underpaid. Granted we don't want anarchy but if the decision came down to it I would have made a similar decision. The only difference is if I had a cc it would have remained concealed until I had to use it, which hopefully would not be too late.
Don't lump me in with those guys. I never said he was wrong for going or for grabbing his gun. I pointed out a few things he could have done differently so that he wouldn't be hurt by the reaction from the police. I have no problem with people having guns it is that half the people that want conceal carry and do carry are doing it for the wrong reasons.
Way to Go!!! brother Wesley. You did the right thing. You can be my neighbor anytime. Most folks dont have the "rocks" to do what you did, you put your life in danger to save a women when you thought the chips were on the table. Cops need to realize their not the first one on the scene, the victims are.
Only thing I would have done (if thinking fast enough) was tell the wife to tell the cops I would be there and describe what I'm wearing. Otherwise even despite not doing that you did zero wrong...the cops were on high alert instantly due to a gun being there when pulling up and that sometimes takes a while to come down from, not to mention they had a non-complying man in the house....makes for stressful situation for them. Great job and I'd take ya as a neighbor any day.
I don't think you did anything wrong, personally. I couldn't imagine staying home and basically allowing anything to happen, while knowing I could possibly help until the cops get there. Since I got my CC permit, I have tried thinking these scenarios out as best as I could. Just too many variable to consider. I do know that whatever I choose to do, my pistol will be in my IWB holster regardless. Makes you rethink a lot of things.... And what the hell was the cop thinking telling you to bring a hammer for protection? That's one of the last things I would want to bring into a neighbors house who could have a gun. Judging by the story, you would think you lived in Illinois
Guys, you are missing the point, a kid ran up screaming that his dad was going to kill his mom. How in the hell do you expect him to think anything otherwise? He had no idea what was going on or what could have happened. The man could have came and assaulted him, the wife, the kids, who knows what. What if HE had a gun? Damn right I would be armed and ready for the unknown. If he approaches with a gun are you going to politely ask him to hold on so you can go get your gun? Come on... I don't think you did anything wrong at all, good job.
Ditto! That would be one heck of an assumption that he wasn't armed. Not a chance I'm taking. I would assume he wouldn't want to arm wrestle to stop the situation. I think you did the right thing in a very quick/intense situation. It's not like it was something you were remotely expecting or planning on. I may have kept the firearm concealed but really ready to use if I had to! One thing is for sure.... I wouldn't lock my doors, look out the window and hope for the best while knowing what you knew.
On the flip side of all of this. You did enter this man's yard with a weapon. Let's say he decides to protect his property from an armed intruder. The best course of action imo with hindsight, once woman left the premises, escorting her to your home would be a better option. Then you can keep her safe there. Staying in this person yard could be very dangerous to all involved. Not saying you were wrong, and Imo you had every right to carry your weapon,just might have been better to leave with the woman.
I never stepped foot on his property. I stayed in the street behind a tree. I also did not even chamber a round. I didn't have my holster with me, hence the reason I just held it until cops arrived and then put it down. I'm more shocked by the cop saying stay home and let someone die....that just absolutely blows my mind...
Ok, sounded to me like you were behind a tree in his yard. I reread it and see where you said you were in the street.
You brought a gun to a conflict with the gun in plain sight and would be described as armed without a round in the chamber, that is why the cop said stay home and let someone else die. Like Ty said in a situation like that a description and information that a person with a gun who is innocent and providing aid would make a huge difference.
Once the wife and kids exited the house what was you waiting on? Was you planning to stop the husband from leaving? I commended you for trying to help but once the wife and kids was out and safe you should have backed off. The last thing I want to roll up to on any call is some guy hiding behind a tree with a gun.
If I had to stop him from going after the wife, or one of the kids, or after my wife, then you damn skippy I would have. I could have went back to my house yes, I agree with that, but in the heat of the situation, can't say I really thought about that. It was a bad situation all around, could things have been done differently on my part, sure I guess so, but put in the situation I did what I thought was right. Just for the record, they did not arrest anyone. Woman went to hospital with her friend or mom or something, kids went with grand parents, and they left the guy at home alone to cool off. The cops are very familiar with him, he is on parole and probation. Cops said if he would have hit her or anything she wouldn't be standing. Said she didn't have a mark on her. Hard to believe 4 kids aged 8-14 would have the same exact story while being hysterical. It is what it is, I'm sure they will be called back there again some time. Not the first time I've seen cops at that house....
So the cop literally told him let someone else die bc he was told about not having a round in the chamber? I didn't read that and don't see it written anywhere.
The cop told me I should have just stayed home and let them handle it period. That is when I raised the point of how he would feel if a woman or child died if he was in my position, he said he would feel bad but still be alive. That is verbatim. They took my gun and cleared it so they knew there wasn't a round chambered, don't remember if I ever said anything about it or if they asked...
