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MNKK
Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:44:55 PM

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Joined: 10/21/2008
Posts: 1,096
Location: MN
Okay, I have been tossing up the possibility of just replacing a bunch of the components on my bow this winter. As opposed to getting a new bow. I am looking at getting the string replaced, along with most of the components. I am currently shooting a Jennings Sonic XL. If anyone knows what that is?!? Yes, it is old, but hell, I'm broke, and it gets the job done!

I keep looking at all of the new gear that comes out year after year, and wondering why?!?

For example, my biggest query is the newer style arrow rests. I don't understand the theories behind the technology.
You have the ones that completely surround the arrow (Whisker Biscuit type). This makes no sense to me.
Don't arrows flex quite a bit on the take off? {see attached video}
Now, wouldn't this cause some friction? Resulting in loss of speed?

Check at about 1:20 into the vid, but watch the whole thing. It's crazy. Big Boy can SHOOT!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29p79ITnztE

Then the fall away rests... Nothing is keeping the arrow up? Yes, I know it's only there for a very small fraction of a second, but it still counts, Right?

Can someone sum this up for me? Am I wrong on these thoughts?

Hogwire
Posted: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:53:42 PM
Rank: Weekend Warrior

Joined: 10/7/2008
Posts: 137
Location: Henryetta, OK
I watched that video and a couple of ones with compounds using releases. the recurves using fingers really shakes those arrows around but it seems the compounds do not near as bad. I could hardly see any movement of the arrow, looked almost like a long bullet. I love drop away rests. I'm using a Naptune 4000 prong style one. It works great but I had some clearance issues with it in the beginning even with the super small 2.5" vanes.(may even be 2"Wink Also it had a definite thump I had to fix when I started shootin it. If I was goin to buy a new one I would think about gettin the one by G5. It looks good to me and it's supposed to be totally quiet. It drops completely away from the fletching at the back of the riser a little below it. I think a lot of them can be adjusted as to how quick they drop away from the arrow. There's one that the string mounts to your top bow limb and the limb actually pulls it away from your arrow. There's some pics on this site of one on a BowTech I think. Good luck HTH. lp
OHbowhntr
Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:37:30 AM

Rank: Weekend Warrior

Joined: 7/27/2008
Posts: 274
Location: SE Ohio
MNKK wrote:
Okay, I have been tossing up the possibility of just replacing a bunch of the components on my bow this winter. As opposed to getting a new bow. I am looking at getting the string replaced, along with most of the components. I am currently shooting a Jennings Sonic XL. If anyone knows what that is?!? Yes, it is old, but hell, I'm broke, and it gets the job done!

I keep looking at all of the new gear that comes out year after year, and wondering why?!?

For example, my biggest query is the newer style arrow rests. I don't understand the theories behind the technology.
You have the ones that completely surround the arrow (Whisker Biscuit type). This makes no sense to me.
Don't arrows flex quite a bit on the take off? {see attached video}
Now, wouldn't this cause some friction? Resulting in loss of speed?

Check at about 1:20 into the vid, but watch the whole thing. It's crazy. Big Boy can SHOOT!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29p79ITnztE

Then the fall away rests... Nothing is keeping the arrow up? Yes, I know it's only there for a very small fraction of a second, but it still counts, Right?

Can someone sum this up for me? Am I wrong on these thoughts?


See my avatar....Until I got a drop-away rest, I was never able to accomplish that kind of shooting!!!! You're bow is fine, it does the job, but can you shoot better with a "better" bow.....??? Yes, you can. Go to a bowshop and shoot a few parallel limb bows and see what you think then. Are a lot of these things necessary??? Probably not, but they make our shooting more accurate, and in essence help us kill more animals and kill them quicker.

Doug
Hoyt Trykon XL 29" @ 70#
Make each day the best it can be, negativity only drags you down!!!
Redblooded REDNECK
Long Beard Gobbler
Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:31:41 PM

Rank: Newb

Joined: 12/2/2008
Posts: 32
Hey im interested in getting into bowhunting turkeys. i dont know what im really doing or what i need i just need some guidence. I have a PSE bow its called the Beast. i want to get arrows but i dont know what i should get carbon or aluminum. If aluminum i dont know what the shaft number should be. i have been using 100 gram field tips for practice. I was wondering what the draw weight should be for hunting turkeys.

The Beast from The East
Brandon8807
Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:34:55 PM

Rank: Weekend Warrior

Joined: 11/9/2008
Posts: 318
Location: Illinois
Longbeard, you'd probably get a better response if you made your own topic on the subject. I've never bowhunted turkeys so I won't be of much help, but I can't imagine you need any different equipment than if you were deer hunting.

'07 Bowtech Tribute
70# DW 29" DL
Cobra Boomslang Sights
Octane Stabilizer
Limb Driver Dropaway
babyburb
Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 9:55:09 AM

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Joined: 11/7/2008
Posts: 139
Location: North Texas
I shoot a prong style shoot trhough rest (quiktune 800). I know everyone likes the drop away but I like the simplicity of it.

Hoyt Xtec 31" draw 79 lb pull
Trophy Ridge Matrix 5 pin
QuicTune 800
10" Doinker Multi rod
29" Axis 300s and 100gr Nitrons
zacer1129
Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:05:26 PM

Rank: Newb

Joined: 11/6/2008
Posts: 43
Location: Southern IN/Louisville ,KY
The first aftermarket rest I bought was a whisker biscuit and I have one on my Hoyt as well. It is going to make you lose a minute amount of velocity, but you won't notice it. You would probably be surprised by how little resistance there actually is. They are designed so the only "stiff" part of the bristles are the ones on the very bottom supporting the arrow. If you can get your hands on one, just nock an arrow and pull it through by hand. This way you can actually feel the amount of resistance. I love the rest because you will never EVER knock an arrow off your rest regardless of the position you are holding your bow. My bow isn't a speed demon, but I had it tested with the rest and it still shoots at or around 280 fps with hunting setup (100 grain tip and 27" arrow at 8.4 gpi). Certainly enough speed to combat string drop. Plus mine (the Fuse whisker biscuit) has vibration dampening nipples around the perimeter so that the little vibration in my bow won't be shown through the rest.

Hoyt Trykon XL XT 29" draw/70lbs.
Fuse 3 pin sight
Fuse 6" stabilizer
Fuse whisker biscuit rest
Fuse Quiver
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