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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Siman/OH, Mar 27, 2014.

  1. Siman/OH

    Siman/OH Legendary Woodsman

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    It's closing in on us fast. I started watching a little more last year after a 10 year hiatus.

    I'm gonna start with this:

    Cabrera will be making $50,000 per at bat this season. Just let that sink in.

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    Yes that's an amazing contract....unreal that they have the market for that.
     
  3. Siman/OH

    Siman/OH Legendary Woodsman

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    I'm suprised that they do.

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  4. Jake/PA

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    I just don't understand these contracts. The only person that would even come close to deserving a 10 year contract would be Trout.

    Yes, Cabrera is one of the best hitters to play the game but you can't expect him to maintain these numbers for another 5 years, let alone 10. He's in his late 20s? Does any MLB team pay attention to these guys that get long term/high paying contracts?
     
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    I disagree, he can be the dh. I feel he will hit incredibly well until the end of the contract. I think this is different than most of the gigantic failures we've seen because those were given when the players skills were already in decline. I would say he has at least 7 more years of MVP like hitting in him.

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    Miguel Cabrera makes more in one at bat than the average person living in Michigan makes in a year... Let that sink in.
     
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    Jake/PA Grizzled Veteran

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    Correction: He's 30 years old.

    Of course moving to first should save him some but there's just noway he will keep these numbers for 7 years.
     
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    If he hits this way for 5 years, then trails off a bit, I don't think it'll be terrible in terms of comparable contracts for a player of that caliber. I don't see him doing a Ryan Howard and hitting 200 with 20 homers. The way TV contracts are going for teams, in 2 years when he hit the open market, its possible someone could have paid him 350 million.

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    Miguel Cabrera BA last 11 years:

    .268
    .294
    .323
    .339
    .320
    .292
    .324
    .328
    .344
    .330
    .348

    You cant argue with those stats. A guy that bats those numbers for that many years doesn't simply forget how to hit once he hits 35+ years old. Look at what Ortiz has done the last few years (he's 38 this year).

    I will agree that his contract is absurd... No reason Detroit should have paid for that many years. Cabrera is one of the best hitters in the game but not the best player in the league if you take defense, position, etc into account.
     
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    Agree 100%. And he's not going to. Been proven by hitters with monster numbers time and time again. They just decline. These franchises are signing these guys on very short term .. win now philosophy. And that's even more disturbing when you figure out the numbers of the contract and pretty much cut it in half (for duration). The back end of the contract essentially means nothing. At that point there are a dime a dozen people out there for far less money with equal numbers. See Arod.. Pujlos.. etc... It just is what it is. Yanks have been paying Arod 25 million the last few years!?!?!?
     
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    I Love Baseball!
     
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    Miggys contact is a no brainer, take a look a projected revenues captured because of it.
    Never mind the fact that they just signed the most complete hitter in the last ...I don't know 50 years?
     
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    What will Trout get???
     
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    He's worth the per yr avg but not for 10 yrs
     
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    This. No doubt in my mind that he deserves the most money right now. The problem is he will be averaging 30 mil a year for the next 10 years.

    Ortiz has been a DH for awhile and who knows what injuries Miggy will have.

    Also, do we even know if he's going to be a good first baseman? What if he has to switch to DH in 2 years? Then you're paying that much to a DH. You can't justify that kind of spending.

    Trout will be the first 400 mil contract, whether that be the Angels or someone else.
     
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    Siman/OH Legendary Woodsman

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    According to ESPN, LeBron is jealous. Worth it.
     
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    Missing the forrest for the trees....

    He is a cash cow, he doesn't have to play 30million dollar a year ball for 10 years....he just has to be worth more the 300 million in revenue generation.
    He is the best hitter in the last 50 years, he is 29 years old, Hispanic ( the fastest going baseball demographic )... ...think business not fantasy baseball.
     
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    Lots of ifs. IF he keeps the #'s up, stays healthy and stays out of the PED mess, he may be in the neighborhood of a half a billion dollar contract. Sounds crazy (and it is) but if he gets a 10-12 year deal at 25 years old, I could see him asking $40 mill a year.
     
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    I didn't see this before I posted almost the same thing :)
     
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    6 yrs 145 Mil

    He will be a free agent at age 28 when that contract expires
     

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