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    Let's Talk DSLR's

    I'm curious what you guys are running for DSLR's. I'm thinking about adding one this year.

    I don't anticipate getting into anything crazy, but I like the idea of having a DSLR for filming b roll footage as well as general stuff with the family, etc. I'm also planning on upgrading to an AX100 for my main video camera this year, and since I'll be losing some zoom with the video camera I like the idea of having a DSLR to film non hunting scenarios where I might want more zoom. Think velvet footage, etc.

    So what are you using? What should I be considering?

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    I am familiar with Canon and when went I grabbed a Rebel T3i and LOVE the dang thing. It is most definitely-undoubtedly-undeniably-assuredly about the lens more than the DSLR of choice IMO.

    Now granted a guy like Fitz could probably take better shots and film than I could even if my lens was $1000 more than his...but within the user the better the lens the better the shots.

    I finally started messing with capturing B roll with the DSLR this past season and the manual zooming/focusing is addicting once you start grabbing those epic shots like the rain drop on the tip of a leaf fall....or similar.

    If I were buying today though I'd probably go with a Canon that also has auto-focus video mode option...you just never know when that could come in handy.
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    I'm a Canon guy. They have a few things going for them.

    1-lens selection
    2-their dual-pixel auto focus for video
    3- their color science.

    Now, for the beginner DSLR guy that's just looking to up their b-roll, I think the Rebel line is great (t3, t6i, etc). It gets you into the DSLR world at a low price point, yet is quite capable. Now, yesterday Canon announced a new t7i. This is going to be a quite capable camera. 1080 up to 60fps, dual pixel CMOS sensor for that great video AF, and a crap load of cross-type AF points for stills. I believe it'll sell for around $750 (body only).

    This gets you into the system and will do most guys just fine. For those that like it and want more capabilities, they can upgrade to a 80D or something down the line, and keep all their lenses. (that's where you'll overtime be spending your $$ anyways)

    Now, having said all that Matt, I think you should also look at the Sony mirrorless cameras like the a6300 or a6500. Since it looks like you might be running a Sony for your main camera, the coloration of your footage between the cameras will more closely match. But the biggest reason for me is their low light capability. Sony's excel there.

    ISO ratings can be tricky and a bit misleading. For instance, the new Canon t7i has an ISO of up to 51200, which is all good. Double what say a 70d has. But the reality is, even though my 70d can go to 25600, I never go past ISO 1600 because the image is too noisy and for the most part, unusable. However, with my Sony a6300, I can get usable footage at ISO 12800. Even higher depending on the situation. Couple that with my 1.8 aperture Sigma and I've done post hunt interviews 10 minutes AFTER legal shooting light, without external light sources.

    The Sony a6300 & a6500 will also shoot 4k which allows you to crop in post if need be.

    The Sony battery life sucks, however, you can power and charge them off of USB, so any cellphone charging battery pack would work with them as well.

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    Truly there are a ton of options out there and things to consider, but either of those cameras will work great for most guys. The trick to any camera is to USE IT! Only through use will you truly learn what your setup can and can't do. Familiarity with your gear also helps you to quickly be able to change settings and adjust to whats happening in the field. You don't want to be trying to figure it all out when you're in the stand!

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    I had a response all typed up but had a class start before I could finish. Came back, and Fitz summed it up perfectly

    If I wasn't so vested in Canon glass, Sony would be on my list, especially for low light. The A7 series is phenomenal.

    Don't forget your audio. Onboard DSLR audio is terrible. Shotgun/hotshoe at a minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGH_PA View Post
    If I wasn't so vested in Canon glass, Sony would be on my list, especially for low light. The A7 series is phenomenal.

    Don't forget your audio. Onboard DSLR audio is terrible. Shotgun/hotshoe at a minimum.
    For sure, DSLR audio sucks. Their preamps are way underpowered. But you can still get good results with the right setup.

    I run a Sigma MC-11 adapter on my Sony, so I can use most of my Canon lenses on the a6300. Like my 18-35mm 1.8

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    If I ever get serious enough with video, I'll invest in a Sony.

    Also holding out for the 6d MKII release

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    I own a Canon 7D and a Canon SL1. Both I use primarily for still photos. However, I do use them from time to time on video projects. I self video all of my hunts so using a DSLR is not my go to camera for video. If I was a full time camera man then I'd use a DSLR or a Sony A7 for video work. But self video is difficult enough to get right with a video camera for me to even want to use a DSLR.

    For the projects that I do do on my DSLR's, good glass, ND filters, and a good microphone are all a must. The results amaze me every time.
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    Can I repurpose my Rode VideoMic that I'm using for my G30 on an SLR? Are they using the same 3.5mm jack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick James View Post
    Can I repurpose my Rode VideoMic that I'm using for my G30 on an SLR? Are they using the same 3.5mm jack?
    Yeah.

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    I'm a Sony guy. Completely invested in to the A-mount system which kinda sucks because they have kinda shifted their focus to the E-mount and mirrorless camera systems. Right now I have two Sony A57 SLT that I use, but I'm thinking about an A6500 or A6300 but I'll have to buy the expensive adapter also to allow me to use all my A-mount lenses.
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    We use both. We have a Canon 70D, Nikon D3200 and a Nikon D5200. The Canon is hands down better than both Nikon's but was also nearly $400 more. Like other guys have said its all in the lens and your experience with the camera. We love doing night timelapses with ours. We have 3 lenses for the Canon and 2 lenses for the Nikons. None of the lens' are very expensive but we are looking to upgrade them since we run DSLR's as our main cameras. This spring I'm going to buy a JVC 4K camcorder to complement the DSLR's. Its very nice to be able to take pictures and video with the DSLR's. But self filming with them sucks. Ebay is a great place to get a good deal on a DSLR. IMO the Canon 70D with a 18-135mm lens will be plenty for what you are going to do with it.
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    Sony is my choice in dslr I'm running a a77 for b roll good camera takes great pics in auto has very big censor good low light camera and you can get glass cheaper by going with old stuff good luck with your choice
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