Colorado elk trip.

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  1. ybohunt

    ybohunt Die Hard Bowhunter

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    So long story short I'm going on a archery elk hunt this fall in Colorado,will probably be Sept 9-15 and I'll probably be cow hunting.

    I will be hunting with a friend that lives out there so he is doing most of the scouting and I think we will be using horses to pack out meat if we're successful


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    Bow setup
    Chill R
    Trophy Ridge Clutch
    Vapor trail "pro v"
    Easton axis 340
    Slick trick standards
    Scott mongoose xt
    G5 quiver

    Current gear
    Bushnell Sport 550 rangefinder
    Rocky c4t boots
    Down mummy bag
    Timber Hawk backpack
    Plenty of misc knives (all high quality,sharp)

    Gear to buy
    Merino base layers
    Vortex binos
    Merino wool sweatshirt/light jacket
    More arrows+BHs
    Sleeping cot
    One man tent ?
    Water purification bottle system


    Do you elk hunters have any tips,pointers on what take or what not to take for clothes,gear etc ??...any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    I'd skip the cot replace with sleeping pad as it's probably lighter and more packable.

    1 knife may be all you need, 2 tops.

    +1 man on the tent size-crappy weather it's nice to have space for you and gear. If you can share tents it may be lighter.

    Skip the base layer bottoms for that early. Add rain gear, a puffy and hat (if it gets cold). Bic minis.

    What are you doing for food/cooking (jetboil/stove)? Any hot beverages/drinks (soup, ramen, coffee, hot cocoa)?

    Pants? Socks?

    What's the plan for the horses (e.g. get them if you need them? Else think trailering/parking + food and where/how will you keep them)?
     
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    Oh and add duct tape or tenacious tape and some leuko tape.
     
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    Not sure but I think we'll be using a light weight propane cooker and a maybe a campfire for coffee,and ramen.
    Probably take 2 sets of pants,one pair of jeans for camp another camo pair for hunting.Three shirts,one lightweight camo,one heavier long sleeve camo and one regular T-shirt for camp.Four pairs socks,underwear.

    Plan for horses is to keep them at a friends place just off the mountain and then get them if/when we need them rather then riding them in and taking grain,hay along for them.
     
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    Unless you want to camp with the horses, have a wrangler bring them to your down elk. Use a good GPS for that. You need something to purify water other than boiling. Either iodine tablets or a sterilization pen. Both would be better.

    How heavy are your arrows? 450 grains would be a minimum weight for elk, over 500 would be better.


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    If it were me I would shoot the dead ringer super freak nasty crossbow head... elk aren't that tough....hahahhaah


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    The kill switch by dead ringer might also be a good option....


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    I'm going to use a water purification bottle system,not sure which brand but I will have one.

    Arrows are roughly 430/440.
    Is it worth spending the cash to get new arrows setup ?,I already have these cut/setup.
     
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    I use a life straw the are light wieght and small I carry mine in my cargo pocket of my pants I even used them when I got deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq

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    I had a lifestraw but went with the platypus (also carry aquamira as a backup since its weight is negligible, the jetboil also an option if really needed). The kit is a bit bigger than the size of a 16oz beer can and weighs <1lb. Filters about 1l/min.

    I like the filter systems (gravity or pump) over the straw as I don't need to be at the water source. I can either filter into a bladder, haul unfiltered water and filter as I need or filter and just haul drinkable water.

    I think the more common problems with filters are: sediment limiting their life; really foul smelling water (like from a wallow) may still have some smell and; freezing weather (ice can destroy the filtering mechanism like a cartridge).

    To limit clogging/sediment buildup follow any directions for backflushing. If the water is real murky consider prefiltering (like through a piece of fabric) or let the debris settle away from the filter inlet.

    To avoid ice destroying the filter shake or blow the filter dry after use and keep the filter inside you sleeping bag at night or inside your insulation layer if hunting in freezing weather.[​IMG]
     
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    Your original post mentioned more arrows and broadheads in the list. If
    You have the money, I would do it.


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    I wouldn't skip out on baselayers but that's just me. I used Kuiu merino wool last year and loved them. In the mornings when packing up camp we had thick frost on our tents. It got cold at night.

    I wore light weight merino against the skin then uninsulated pants and shirt. Then wore a Kuiu 1/4 zip peleton hoodie. Packed a light Kuiu jacket and wore as needed. I never got hot enough to take off the base layers but did at times only have my Merino layer on top on. A puffy jacket or vest is one thing I wish I did have for around camp.

    I would say your arrows are fine if you want to stick with them. To increase your FOC you could bump up your tip weight to 125 grain if your setup allows.

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    I have 4 arrows currently,I was planning on getting another 4/5 new ones before the trip.
     
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    Get a half dozen arrows and set them up for 500-550 grains. It will be well worth it if get a shot at an elk.


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    I second the platypus filtration system. As far as shaft weight goes I believe I'm right around 420ish, but I've found a balance of weight and speed for high KE. Shooting a small diameter head should help, if you decided not to bump up shaft weight.
    Depending on where you camp, I wouldn't rely on being able have a camp fire.
    There's a lot of good info online about what to bring and expect.
     
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    I shot a 5x5 last year with arrows weighing just under 400. I know it's light compared to what a lot of people like for elk but it works. My shot was a complete pass through at 25 yards. That being said I have since upgraded and will be shooting arrows in the 490 range this year. But as long as you have good KE you should be fine.
     
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    wl7 covered a lot of good points...
    Unless you have a base camp right off a road, lose the cot for sure
    2 man lightweight tent (check Sierra Trading Post they have good deals usually)
    Food, brother! You need to properly fuel yourself or the Mountain will beat you. Check out Mountain House freeze dried food. Very tasty and whatever you don't use will last for years. You have no idea how much a hot filling meal at the end of a long grueling day will lift your spirits. I only ate one hot meal per day (always at night) made my coffee for the next morning at night as well and kept it hot in a thermos for the AM. Morning meals were usually peanut butter and jelly on flour tortillas (tortillas pack great and don't squish or mold quick like bread.) Lunch was usually jerky and trail mix.
    Did you mention Elk calls?
    You're definitely going to want more than 4 arrows, brother. And heavier if possible. I'm shooting appx 495gr total and put one almost all the way thru a cow diagonally from just behind the near side shoulder to opposite hip at 28 yards. It was a very slight quarter-to shot but hit a rib on entry and veered sharply to the rear. Had I been shooting lightweights at any more of an angle it probably would have skipped right off her
    Game bags
    Big tough trash bags
    Paracord
    Sidearm if legal
    8x10 (+-)tarp

    And not to start a broadhead fight but I've found I don't get near the penetration out of a 4 blade head as I do w/ a 2-3. I really like SlickTricks- if I lived somewhere mechs were illegal I'd use them on deer with 100% confidence, and I'm sure quite a few people on here have killed Big Game with them; but a good tough CoC 2 main blade or really sharp tipped 3 blade is all I'd consider for elk, moose, etc.

    I'll probably think of more things later...
     
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    What everyone has said: cooking system, 6 More arrows, Water bottle(s) and/or bladder, sleeping pad, rain gear, rain tarp w/ rope (for a dry gear or cooking area).

    I haven't elk hunted, but I have backpacked. I just picked up a jetboil stove similar to a MSR pocket rocket (not the pot combo) at an REI garage sale for $13. Checkout REI.com's garage sale section, Sierra Trading Post, camofire.com. I've seen a solo tent on camofire a couple of times recently.


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    https://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-Gear-Tie-Assorted/dp/B00XIWJXKK

    ^ These suckers come in handy
    More thoughts-

    2 good headlamps
    Portable charging station
    I'd ditch the jeans for a pair of sweatpants. If your jeans get wet have fun with that; also sweats can double as an insulating layer on a hunt if temps drop unexpectedly and they're lightweight if you pack them
    A good small survival first aid kit including whistle
    Biodegradable baby wipes...
    Hand sanitizer
     
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    Building on the above.

    Spare batteries (in daypack/lid) especially for those head lamps if you're out early/late or get an elk and need to get it broken down in the dark.

    For the charging station we had the generator at base camp (away from where we were hunting) that ran in the morning and evening. Alternatives may be a car charger unless you're in the backcountry or stout battery pack(s)-I picked up about a 20000maH Anker (~13oz) there are others on the market.

    Sweats tend to be cotton-be forewarned-cotton doesn't dry quick and is not a good insulator when wet. This is where i figure wool or synthetic base layers play. I brought my pant base layer and only wore them 1 day at the end of CO archery. I figured if I was real cold I could also put my rain pants on.

    We did mention rain gear, right?

    Baby wipes, yup, get the unscented ones. Hottest summer day lay them out in the sun to dry them and lighten the load. Dampen them with water in the field.

    A small bottle (like 1oz) of multipurpose unscented soap in case you need to lauder some stinky clothes/underwear/socks.

    If we didn't cover it before some 550 or 2mm (glowire or some other reflective is the cats meow) to hang food if in bear areas/hang meat/field repair.

    I had a couple dry bags to keep clothes dry and hang food-worth the weight (couple oz) I thought. But I also had a few gallon ziploc for my meals but they can serve multiple purposes (inflate for a pillow, temp waste storage, etc).
     
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