carbons for my recurve

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  1. FOXFIRE

    FOXFIRE Weekend Warrior

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    My bundle of old 2117s have dried up & now I have to make the move to carbon arrows, as far as choosing a place to start is ther a standard number for grains per inch I need to consider ??

    I shoot a 50lb DW and a 28in DL older bear grizzly recurve, what would be a desired GPI wt for this set up.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Check out the Gold Tip Traditionals. Big Jims bow company sells them at a great price. I would recommend some 55/75 with 150-200 grain broad heads.
     
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    Gotcha, thanks for the input.
     
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    I think you might want to check out 35/55 first.. just to see if they might work better for you.

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    I agree with woodsman 35/55 would probably be better. Not sure why I said 55/75 :bash: I would start with some 125 or 150 grain points and see how they shoot.
     
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    Yes. Gold Tip 35/55 should be right for your bow w/125/150 field tips.
     
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    With the numbers 35/55...does this suggest the arrow should work for a bow woth a draw weight between 35 & 55 ??

    Hate to sound like a stooge but I'm still in the learning stages for carbons arrows.
     
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    Don't feel alone about carbon arrow confusion. A couple years ago I bought a couple carbon arrows at Wal-mart, they would sell you a single arrow. I bought one arrow that was 70# spine another that was 60#.. I ran them through my spine tester and the 60# spine checked 80-85# spine and the 70# spine tested 100# spine... Well now it's more confusing but when shot from my bow it was easy to see they were way over-spined.. Well, to shorten the story I found 35/55 Gold Tips spined 55#. There are probably others that test correctly also.. I can't afford to test them all. But yes, it's confusing.. you know it can't really cover 35# to 55#..
    And to make it worse, I had to put 200 grain field point on the Gold Tips to get great arrow tune/flight...

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    Just for further information.. I've been in archery for over 40 years. Just so you know I'm not new at this and have years of experience tuning bows/arrows.

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    What kind of spine tester were you using?

    If you are testing arrows from Walmart, they are most likely compound arrows and would be tested by checking the amount they flex. .400 would be a 400 spine.


    A compound 30#-55# arrow will have a different spine reading (flex)than a recurve 30#-55# arrow.

    I do agree that it is impossible to rate arrows this way because of the variables of the bows and draw lengths involved.

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    Yes that that would indicate that a bow between 35-55 lbs should be used however the point weight and shelf depth can drastically change the spine of an arrow. So it's not quite as simple as that.
     
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    i just googled the easton Axis traditional sizing chart for carbon arrow spine and went and bought them.. simple as that! probably not shooting the best i possibly could be but ive only been shooting for a little over a month and am consistent at 20 yards. Check them out they fly great
     
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    Happy to hear it archeryaddict!
     
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    I shoot a 48# recurve at 28" and shoot 35/55 GT Traditionals with 100 grain brass inserts, 100 grain points and they fly great. They are cut 29" and fletched with 3 4" RW feathers with helical.
     
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    What's the difference between a compound arrow and a recurve arrow?
     
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    The spine for a 50# recurve will be much lighter than for a 50# compound

    For example.

    50# recurve with 100 gr points and 28" arrow should be a .500 spine.

    A hard cam compound at same specs needs a .400

    This is due to the compound having more stored energy and transfers more to the arrow.

    The arrows themselves aren't necessarily different, other than it is typical for traditional arrows to be heavier and have more mass.

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    So, if you pick up an arrow rated for a 50# compound it will be too stiff for a 50# recurve.



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    Right...arrow spine isn't different. Just the way it reacts off the two bows is. A .500 deflection is a .500 deflection no matter what bow it's shot off of. It's just a matter of is it the right spine for that particular bow and does it tune properly
     

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