Transparency???? Maybe we need Obama to understand it....

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  1. OHbowhntr

    OHbowhntr Die Hard Bowhunter

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    This jackhole is always talking about "transparency" yet he's about as transparent as a concrete wall..... We have two separate incidents in the last couple years in which legally both cases were very open and closed not-guilties, but he and Holder stir the pot, because both cases involved a young black male who was killed by a non-black person defending himself to the degree the law allows. And in both cases, this well educated lawyer KNOWS there was no case, but stirred the pot to create a racial divide, IMHO. Why can't he be more "transparent???" Which when I use the term "transparent," I mean HONEST and OPEN about his motivations. How about the MEDIA becomes more "transparent," and rather than reporting "hearsay," and stories that may or may not be true, they wait until the FACTS are available, and report the FACTS, and when the FACTS are available, they report the FACTS, rather than continuing to reports mistruths which only further muddle up things and inflame the problems we deal with....

    While this is only the tip of the iceberg, I'd also like the truth about Benghazi, immigration, Bo Bergdahl, and a long laundry list of other issues, these couple of more domestic issues are really festering in this country right now, and the complete lack of HONESTY shown by both Obama and his administration has only made things WORSE!!! I for one would be a big fan of "IMPEACHMENT 2015!!!", which is only hindered by the fact that we have an absolute moron for a vice president.... Though I'm not sure he could be any worse than the moron who is currently serving as president.
     
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    I'm all for impeachment, I don't fear the ignorance of Biden nearly as much as the crooked evil of the guy we have now. I don't think he's stupid, I think he's a cold calculated evil socialist led by islam. I despise everything he stands for...liberal nut. I don't know how any one person can be on the side of absolute wrong on every single issue...it's amazing, a fool would be right by accident once in a while.
     
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    So what do you think about Obama? :evilgrin:
     
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    I'm with you on just about everything, but impeachment is not the right answer. He is a lame duck president for the next two years because the republicans own both the house and senate. The republicans need to prove to the American people that the American people are the top priority to them. If they push for impeachment, my guess is that it will backfire and we will be right back in the same situation in 2016. The republicans need to start offering compromises and let Obama be the one to say no. If they can show they are willing to work with the democrats, it will go a long ways to show the American people that they are on the side of whats best for Americans. Force the Democrats to be the part of "No" as the media has labeled the republicans.
     
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    That has not worked for the last two years...my honest opinion is that the lame duck is more dangerous than ever and that "what's best for America" is getting the tool out of public office ASAP before he does any more damage.
     
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    Surely you jest? lol
     
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    Too many more "executive orders," and we'll bankrupt our grandchildren's grandchildren..... The guy is, BAR-NONE, the WORST President this country has ever had!!!
     
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    The republicans only owned the majority in the house. Starting in 2015, they will own the majority in both. That means no liberals bills will be able to be introduced and passed at all. Force the president to veto everything, showing America that he has no interest in doing what's best for America. IF we want this country to get back on track, we have to elect a republican president and keep the majority in both the house and senate. If we impeach Obama, you can bet it will be extremely hard to elect a Republican President.

    Believe me, I want nothing more than Obama to be out of office, but I want whats best for American long term.
     
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    Trust me, I'm with you. The first action of the new congress should be to pass legislation to limit executive orders. That would go a long way to restore the american democratic process.
     
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    There is already limits on executive orders but he doesn't care.

    I agree we need him out but not through impeachment. I would be for it except for it will hurt conservatism in the long run. Speaking of conservatism, it would be nice to have a few of them back in the Republican party as well.
     
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    I would say the best way to approach the executive orders is for congress to defund every program that is being used to execute the executive orders. Cut is legs out from under him. Congress has the power to do exactly that. Then, they need to sue him for every executive order that is outside his power. Let the supreme court put him back in his place. That's why we have 3 branches of government, all with checks on each other.
     
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    Agreed and it's being done but it will take 10 years or more for all the court cases to reach the courts.
     
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    I wonder if he's trying to catch this guy, he's at 193
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    While humorous and I somewhat agree, comparing to the president that took over during the Great Depression and the duration of WWII isn't really apples to oranges. It's apples to televisions.

    Obama isn't nearly as horrible as most make him out to be. He isn't the devil in cloak, he isn't calculating ways to dismantle our country piece by piece... He truly believes his direction is good for our country. While I don't agree, I am not naive enough to over look that fact.
     
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    Honestly I see no difference between any of them save a few.
    Both try to take your rights, property and destroy your freedom.
    Both believe themselves to be above the lowly citizens.
    And I for one am glad they never agree because when they do it just means that Americans are about to take it in both holes.
    We should really bring back the guillotine.
     
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    I could care less about Obama. We're stuck with him, so I simply ignore him and anything he has to say. I don't have time to be annoyed with him anymore. Instead, I am focusing my anger towards the toolbag republicans who are backing off their 2014 campaign promises. They finally regain power and what do they do? They back off their "principles" which actually proves they didn't have those principles to begin with. They're just as corrupt as the democrats, all they want to do is retain their seat. Specifically I'm referring to John Boehner and his crew of idiots, those guys gotta go. This is classic republican derangement, what ever happened to just being fiscally conservative and socially libertarian? Why is that so hard?
     
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    he had NO interest in transparency. never has, never will.
    he has set this country back many years.
     
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    It's all a rue's. It's not about Left wing vs right wing it's about Tax payers vs Big government.
     
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