The quad drop away blues!!!!

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by Livnforseptember1977, Mar 13, 2015.

  1. Livnforseptember1977

    Livnforseptember1977 Newb

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    Ok guys this is my first post any help would be greatly apreciated... I recently decided to switch from the whisker biscuit to the quad ultra rest. My bow is a 2014 pse surge. I have tried everything i can think of to tune it with the quad rest and its just not getting any better. My bare shaft groups are a foot higher than the fletched groups and slightly to the left. What should i do.
     
  2. Smoke

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    are you shooting bullet holes?? if so, stop using the bare shafts... ;)
     
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    You should have kept the WB. lol
     
  4. Bootlegger

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    Which QAD do you have?

    Sent from my XT830C
     
  5. Livnforseptember1977

    Livnforseptember1977 Newb

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    Its the qad hunter rest and i have not tried to paper tune it because some of the folks i hunt with said its not necesary.
     
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    Bow String Depot Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Paper tune it, that will tell you if the vanes are coming in contact with the rest





    Hutch
     
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    You need to paper tune it. Will fix it for you.
     
  8. Livnforseptember1977

    Livnforseptember1977 Newb

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    Ok im gonna paper tune it in the morning and Ill let ya know how it goes thanks for the help.
     
  9. Bootlegger

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    May wanna try the HDX model.

    Sent from my XT830C
     
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    nontypical223 Weekend Warrior

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    Do you have a press and a draw board
     
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    Is your qad rest completely down horizontally after u shoot not touching your riser at all after it drops? Pictures would help. Also is your timing on 100%? I just switched to a qad drop rest and I love it from the WB. Also make sure your rest is aligned properly with you knock? Or maybe this is all good and your peep is just moving around causing you to redirect your bow up and down... also have you lined up your center shot? Usually done with a tool such as this uploadfromtaptalk1426330915848.jpeg
    There's also a shim tool to line up center shot for the riser usually comes with the bow... I can't find mine right now to show u but what this does is it slides under the arrow and on the riser for perfect centering with your bow string and riser. But this also helps setup your rest with your left and right adjustments.
    Also your timing string... is this string tied in or clamped on using a clip usually provided with the rest. And is it attached to you drop cable at least 3. Inches below the rest? Make sure you paper tune as well after very important to check for good vane pass through! Let us know how you make out with all this.... good luck
     
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    I am a big wb fan love the simplicity of it, I also have been looking at qad pse ultra rest, I just need some convincing so would anybody on here be incline to convince me you know the prosand cons.
     
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    I shoot a QAD HDX on all my bows. Love them. I haven't used the hunter model before.

    Sent from my XT830C
     
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    I have the hunter but I tried out the HDX as well in the shop to see if there were any differences on my bow, there wasn't so I saved like $60 from not getting the more expensive one. The only problem I had was shelf slap but I have that taken care of
     
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    Forget the bare shaft tune, some use it, but it is primarily for finger shooters.

    Use the lipstick test to look for fletch contact. Hit the edge of each vane with lipstick (I use a white Mean Streak marker), and shoot. You will have marks from the lipstick on the rest where it is hitting. You may need to use the alternative rest fork, depending upon your setup.

    Paper tune if you want, I personally just eyeball centershot and level or slight high nock, and shoot broadheads and fieldpoints and adjust as needed. I continue to do this out to 45-50 yds to fine tune. This is all assuming at this point, of course, that you have the proper arrows, point weight, FOC, etc.

    QADs are VERY easy to tune, but you need to start back at the beginning to ensure that your arrows are clearing the rest properly, or you'll never get it to work right, despite what method of tuning that you use.

    Good luck.
     
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    The Hunter can be tricky to tune because many have issues with bounce back. The lines do not have to line up perfect but make sure the launcher is coming up to vertical the last 1" or so of your draw, any earlier and make adjustments to the cord. Also make sure you have something on the shelf to dampen the launcher so it doesn't bounce back. I have had both the Hunter and the HDX and doubt I will ever use a Hunter again, mainly because I like the staying up on let down and lock down (eliminates bounce back) features.
     
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    have two hunter rests and one HDX on bows and all work great. stick with it. once its set up you'll be happy with it.
     
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    How tight are your knocks on your serving?I had a contact issue i cocouldn't get resolved until I ended up reserving my center section with a thinner serving.
     
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    Jock itch power works too!
     
  20. ShaneB22

    ShaneB22 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Move your nocking point down just a little at a time until they hit the same spot
     

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