Flash vs ir

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  1. Freddy_2100

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    Looking for a new inexpensive camera. My current cameras use ir , the one i am looking at uses a white flash. Just wondering what anyone thinks about flash vs ir, thanks.
     
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    Why... Flash at all. Go black flash and never look back. I run over twenty cams and they all are black and some are no flash as I covered some with black tape it's amazing how much damage we can inflict on are own hunting not to mention how much scent we leave when we check cams. I no longer put cams on trails anymore for this reason. Sorry I am a little short because I have been thrashing on a boat in this sun all day..engine change
     
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    I have White flash, black flash and IR. The deer seem startled by the IR sometimes. I had one buck last year that would frown every time it would light up. They never get within 5 yards of the IR. They DO NOT pay any attention to the white flash at all. They walk all the way up to it and even sniff it. The Black flash obviously doesn't spook them either. A white flash will more than likely be cheaper. Hunting Supplies Online | Discount Hunting Equipment Supply Store | Hunting Gear for Sale Online has the MP6 Black for $114.95.
     
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    muzzyman88 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    The deer definitely notice the IR flash, but none seem to spook as I get multiple pictures for days afterwards. The big thing is to put the cam in places that the deer won't notice the flash or its not front and center to them. Scent IMO, is far more damaging to them than flash.

    I've read that the white flash is less startling as the deer may think its lightning.
     
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    I have (3) white flash cams and get good results year after year. Moultrie has a refurbished D-55 for $29.99 on their site currently which would work good.
     
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    Deer can sense the IR flash? I thought the purpose was to be undetectable. Their eyes can pick up the IR waves?
     
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    Yawn my ***. You would fall out of the tree.
     
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    My opinion as a novice trail cammer ....

    Every deer has its own personality. Some are scared of their own shadow others not so much.

    I stomp all over the woods as often as possible wearing work clothes and bug spray. My deer know me by name and scent.

    Now a camera that "clunks" when triggered that will turn a deer inside out.

    I also love to prove people wrong :D
     
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    I haven't had a problem w/ flash or IR... I don't think they are spooked any more or less by either.
     
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    For me, I prefer white flash for night photos. I'm with Pat on this one. I think it tends to be specific to the deer. I've gotten continual shots of bucks all season long on the same camera with white flash.
     
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    Most of ours are IR and it doesn't seem to bother them


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    Run a cam with red ir in video mode and watch the bucks run, I have a lot of videos of deer doing this. I went to black flash and it stopped happening.

    If your in a area that gets heavy human traffic deer an get used to scent and flash but it seems the mature smart bucks only come by once.
    Try putting a red flash cam up and set a black flash cam up watching it you will see a lot of reaction from deer weather it be from scent to flash or just something new in there area. Some deer just turn and run but I will tell you that just by putting your cam as high as you can reach pointed down makes a huge difference in deer and trespassers picking your cam off
     
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    Interesting, I have been using IR cameras for a while now and actually gave away a couple old WGI white flash cams I had, because I thought the pint was so the flash was "undetectable" Might have to pick up some coverts now, black flash and white flash. I just got a couple Covert MP5 IR's also.



     
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    Blackout all the way!!
     
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    I've used them both and haven't noticed any difference in the way the deer approach it or look at it
     
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    I rarely ever got repeats with white flash cameras. They spooked my deer, no doubt.

    With IR, they are curious, but rarely spook. Pretty used to the flash by now.

    As for black flash, they see the camera if they look at it...otherwise, it's like it's not even there.
     
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    I agree it depends on the animal. Wolves, foxes & yotes bust IR cams every time. I prefer black flash because it's least likely to be picked off by anyone, including other hunters.
     
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    I have ran both IR and white flash cameras over the years and have had both spook deer. I have learned to put the camera higher and point it down instead of keeping it at eye level for a deer. The advantage of white flash cameras is nicer and better night time images. Most IR cameras there will be a slight blurr in the night time pictures and they are not in color.
     

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