Building a heavy arrow

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  1. buttonbuckmaster

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    Help a fella out here. I told the guy at the area archery shop I needed some arrows for an upcoming elk hunt. He set me up with some 340 Beman ICS Hunters, cut to 29 inches. I'm planning to use a 125 grain fixed broadhead. Not counting the inserts and fletching, that will have me just shy of 400 grains. I'm shooting 70lbs from my old Mathews LX, which I haven't crono'd, but its no speed demon. I'm more concerned with penetration than FPS. I'd like to be over 450 grains. Should I step up to a 50 or 100 grain brass insert? Possibly a weight tube instead?
     
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    70 lbs shooting a ~425 grain finished arrow with a fixed blade head should do the trick on an elk no problem.
     
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    I would select a different shaft.
    First off, I don't think the spine of a 340 will work that well with a 125 grain head, 29 inches, and 70 pounds. Fixed blades will not like that at all. Putting more weight up front will just make that worse.

    If you went with a 300 spine you could load the front end up with weight until you reached your desired weight. I made a set of velocity pro gold tips weight to 430ish and had a ton of FOC (don't remember the exact).
     
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    Sorry to say but your "fella" set you up wrong. Whats your draw length?
     
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    28 DL. I told him the arrow weight I wanted to be at, and he's always been great at helping me tune, set up, etc. When he told me the arrows were what I needed, well, I took his word for it. So what do you guys suggest? Drop back to a 100 grain BH or scrap these and start over?
     
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    Agreed... 340 spine @29 inches and 70 pounds is borderline wimpy for 125 grain head. I definitely would not recommend adding more weight up front, though since you stated it is not a really fast bow... you may get by as is. Test it before you scrap it but 300s would likely be better if you're going heavier up front. I like your idea of dropping back to 100 grain. I just can't imagine how a 100 grain Slick Trick or Muzzy wouldn't do a great job with your set-up.
     
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    I shoot a similar setup at 27.5" though my bow is faster. I shoot a 27" Goldtip 7595 (.340") w/ 50 grain brass insert weights and 125 grain heads. I am slightly stiff. My finished weight with wraps and 3" fusions is 475 grains and 17.2% FOC. In my opinion this is an extremely efficient arrow for my/our draw length and weight.
     
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    Just talked to the guy at the shop. He said to bring in the arrows he made and he'd exchange them for 300's.
     
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    Those 340's are fine if he would cut them down to a proper length. I think 300's are going to make you stiff.
     
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    Depends on which chart I look at, some say they need to be 300, some said 340. I'm going there Sat morning to see what we come up with.
     
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    Agree


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    I am also at 28 dl and 70 lbs out of a Chill R I called Easton and talked to the tech. they told me that I was on the line 400 vs a 330 using a Hexx at 28 in I went with the 330 50gr insert and a 100 gr NAP spitfire .420 gr total and 12 foc so far fly and punch the target just fine. The old set up was a 28.5 Beeman 340 at around 420 100 gr head no insert and they fly the same out of the Chill R IMHO I get.m more punch out of the Hexx setup
     

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