Thoughts on Baiting Deer

**Mbhunt08** · 11-23-2012, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Snap-On

Abortion is legal, don't mean it right! Get a moral compass!

Reaching a little huh....wow.

**Mbhunt08** · 11-23-2012, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by TEmbry

I'm stepping this up a notch.... People that use rifles to deer hunt have no ethics and most certainly aren't hunting.

Only if its over bait and they shoot before legal shooting hours....

**jrk_indle84** · 11-23-2012, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by FEB

You know, admitting that you break game laws on an open forum is quite stupid. Are you and the guy above you buddies?

I'm assuming I'm the guy your referring to. And yes I've admitted it as well that during the off season I do the same thing Pearce say for the same reasons, I'll even do you one better and have openly admitted to putting out bait to a very close friend who happens to be a conservation officer. Is it illegal yea, do I do it to harvest a deer no. Seeing as that's the only thing I do that's illegal when hunting I think I can lived with myself and not have any guilt. And with caution of getting more off topic then the abortion statement I also speed and don't wear a seatbelt both of which are illegal.

**gutone4me** · 11-23-2012, 11:14 AM

**FEB** · 11-23-2012, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by jrk_indle84

I'm assuming I'm the guy your referring to. And yes I've admitted it as well that during the off season I do the same thing Pearce say for the same reasons, I'll even do you one better and have openly admitted to putting out bait to a very close friend who happens to be a conservation officer. Is it illegal yea, do I do it to harvest a deer no. Seeing as that's the only thing I do that's illegal when hunting I think I can lived with myself and not have any guilt. And with caution of getting more off topic then the abortion statement I also speed and don't wear a seatbelt both of which are illegal.

So you can't follow simple laws like everyone else then? Good luck with that, I truly hope you get busted.
I like to run cams too, I do it without a baitpile. It's really not that difficult.

**Snap-On** · 11-23-2012, 11:38 AM

In some areas you can drive your car/truck to the hunting zone, get out and drive your atv to your baited stand, shoot a deer with a rifle or other easy mode weapon from 20 yards. Is this hunt equal to a backpacking hunt after a Dall Sheep? Weather the guy that shot the Dall Sheep with a rifle or bow hes testing himself and his gear to the max over a sometimes 12 day hunt. That is hunting, even with a guide its very hard work

People hunt with rifles, people hunt from tree stands, people bait deer but do they seriously think this is equal to hunting off the ground? Hunting off the ground isnt even that hard, not to mention the safety aspects of hunting out of a tree stand, people die or get paralyzed all the time and we all see the threads on this board about them. I know a guy this happened to and he died not long after.

Everyone hunt safe!

**FEB** · 11-23-2012, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by iamsamsamiam

Baiting is illegal. I am of the opinion, real hunters don't bait. Hunting over a bait pile is one of the worst forms if poaching imo. It ranks right up there with spotlighting deer in my book.

This thread is about LEGAL baiting, not poaching with bait!

**AshAid** · 11-23-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by jeffacarp

I'm sure theres more than myself on here that view hunting as more than a "voluntary sport". Yes we choose to hunt, but its much more than that. Hunting is an experience, its a way of life, its providing food for the table in some cases. Hunting is about respect for the animal you harvest, having a connection with the beauty of creation, and using all parts of the animal that gave its life at your hand.

The statement, "nobody needs to kill a deer" is false. I can think of three to four lower income families in our town that rarely eat beef or pork and rely on the does they harvest to feed them and their children. I'm sure others on here know of similar situations where people do "need" to shoot deer to put food on the table. I'm not looking to argue, but your comments seem to be shortsighted.

oh, and "crap in a bag to lure him in"...last monster raxx purchase I made, the mineral came in bags. It also added huge inches of antler growth to my deer herd, kept more deer on the property, and I couldnt be more pleased with my purchase of that "crap".

This right here is a awesome response by Jeffacarp and 1 I totally agree with.....just last week I took my 6 yr son out with me on my Father In Laws property in Virginia.... and in the 2 days we were out there in our blind we saw 7 Deer..(didn't harvest any cause either were too young or on one I wasn't able to draw with her (Doe) location and she came up on us fast from behind.

Try telling my Son and for that case myself that Hunting isn't about the experience and quality of time (as Jeff stated) we were able to share together in those 2 days....it isn't about the harvesting of a Deer that means the most to me...it's about time with my Son and teaching him the quality of God's creation and beauty and respect of that animal.

I personally have no second thoughts whatsoever about baiting as long as your state says it's legal.

**brucelanthier** · 11-23-2012, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Snap-On

People hunt with rifles, people hunt from tree stands, people bait deer but do they seriously think this is equal to hunting off the ground?

Actually, if they are like me they probably don't give a **** if the way the hunt is equal to the way someone else hunts. They aren't in some imaginary contest of who "hunts the hardest" that only they know about. They are just enjoying themselves and not worrying about whether or not they measure up to some dumbass, bull**** rules about who hunts the hardest made up by some guy with a made up internet name that needs to denigrate someone else to feel better about himself.

**John Galt** · 11-23-2012, 12:32 PM

I'm sure hunting is very difficult for a few of these guys, life in general surely poses challenges to a select few.

**jrk_indle84** · 11-23-2012, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by FEB

So you can't follow simple laws like everyone else then? Good luck with that, I truly hope you get busted.
I like to run cams too, I do it without a baitpile. It's really not that difficult.

So your telling me you follow ever single law out there no matter what it is? I also run cameras without bait piles and your right it's not that hard. But as stated earlier in Illinois the baiting law stated it illegal except "grain or other feed scattered or distributed solely as a result of normal agricultural, gardening or soil stabilizing practices." So basically if I choose to I can park a gravity wagon near my stand and if filling it with combine some corn gets on the ground well that's ok, so how is that different then taking a five gallon bucket a dumping it out. Neither of which I do during the season or any time after roughly Aug 1. But thank you for wishing me getting caught, I understand what the consequence would be and would gladly except that.

**Preacher Tony** · 11-23-2012, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by brucelanthier

Actually, if they are like me they probably don't give a **** if the way the hunt is equal to the way someone else hunts. They aren't in some imaginary contest of who "hunts the hardest" that only they know about. They are just enjoying themselves and not worrying about whether or not they measure up to some dumbass, bull**** rules about who hunts the hardest made up by some guy with a made up internet name that needs to denigrate someone else to feel better about himself.

Great post!

Samiamsam...... dude.....

**iamsamsamiam** · 11-23-2012, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Preacher Tony

Great post!

Samiamsam...... dude.....

<3 u 2 PT.

**Snap-On** · 11-23-2012, 02:33 PM

Hunting is about the experience, if you dont get that get out of the stand.

Originally Posted by brucelanthier

Actually, if they are like me they probably don't give a **** if the way the hunt is equal to the way someone else hunts. They aren't in some imaginary contest of who "hunts the hardest" that only they know about. They are just enjoying themselves and not worrying about whether or not they measure up to some dumbass, bull**** rules about who hunts the hardest made up by some guy with a made up internet name that needs to denigrate someone else to feel better about himself.