Hey just thought if anyone was looking for a new cam you can get a Primos Proof Cam 02 off EBay with Ebays 20$ off coupon and Primos $30 rebate ends up costing $58.99 that's a great price on any camera and these Proof Cam 02s are supposed to be good ones. You could buy the 03 which is the no glow for $69.99 but I think the low glow takes better night pics.