Sorry for the bad quality. The computer isn't working so I just took a picture from the TV. See below for the good pictures.
What do you think the buck would score? I'm not good at guessing but I say at least 140". Also how much do you think the bears in the first picture and the last two pictures weigh? The last two are of the same bear.
Hard to say about the buck score while in velvet, best guess is 120's, may push 130 hard horned. I'm anything but a bear expert, no idea on weight for the bear.
Its not guessing if you learn to estimate the tines lengths. Then add the up. Just like when you actually score a deer.