building a shed... thoughts please

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  1. donut757

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    like the title says, gonna build a shed on somewhat of a budget. Nothin fancy, just a 12x12 to keep ATV and garage junk in. But i come to you with these questions....

    1) siding.... Do i sheath it and vinyl the walls? or i am looking at using the Smartside composite type stuff, i have never used it though. Smartside stuff would be cheaper for sure, but more up keep than basic vinyl.

    2) pressure treated for flooring and 4x4s to place frame on... What for framing of the walls? standard framing or stay pressure treated?

    3) flooring... how thick a plywood to use?

    4) screws vs nails???


    Any other advice yall can offer would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. buckeye

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    I would do vinyl, but it is really up to what you would like.

    Yes, all pressure treated for the floor framing. Depending on what you store in it, you may want a pressure treated bottom plate for your walls. Usually not necessary though.

    3/4 pressure treated plywood for the floor.

    I use a nail gun for everything but do go back over the floor with screws.
     
  3. Dubbya

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    Not to disagree with others on the flooring or where the shed will be built but did you consider just using ABC/Crush and Run for the floor?

    For the glue Dubbya mentioned construction adhesive would be my choice.

    If you want a finished look on the outside you can skin it with OSB and hang vinyl siding.

    If you go Hardi, wear a mask when cutting.
     
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    built one about 10 years ago (8X10)... little labor intensive but well worth the effort... dug a trench and framed it to 3" above grade then filled with cement (heres the labor part... bags mixed 2 ata time in my wheel barrel)... giving me a 3" think floor with about 14" footings... standard 2X4 walls and roof, hardy board sides and fiberglass roof... barn door, and paint the outside... son got hold of some Styrofoam sheets I used to insulate it.. total cost under $1000... and if the past 10 years are any indication.. it will last another 30
     
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    note for above... this was my second shed... built the first one with pressure treated wood floor... we get lots of rain here... floor rotted out in 5 years
     
  7. Christine

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    Right before we moved from illinois we put an addition on our pole barn. How hard could it be, my husband and I thought. Well after digging holes, setting those huge posts and trying to maneuver 30'+ trusses... We knew. It turned out okay but when we got this place in utah and needed a 8x 12 shed... We bought a pre-made one that they drop off in your yard. :D It's actually really nice and with the time constraints we had, well worth it.

    Also, while I'm not being helpful, it's amazing how many sheds out here have bare OSB walls. One of the perks of living in the desert. ;)
     
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    Twice as big as you think you need:)


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  9. Dubbya

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    Correct on all counts, I assumed he wanted a wood floor because he asked about thickness. But 1/2" crusher run would work well unless you were using it as a work space.
     
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    Built this one last year even though I new a lot I still checked youtube.com and got more ideas on what style and materials and these guys on here are giving good advice

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    I built a 10X15' shed five years ago (weird dimension because the county at the time required anything over 150 sq ft to have a building permit). I used the LP smartside and it's holding up great. It's pre-primed and just make sure to put a good couple coats of paint on it. Also, any edge that is exposed (bottom part of plywood siding) I painted real good as well. Otherwise it would act as a wick when it rains.

    I used 3/4" for the floor. Definitely use some construction adhesive on the joists before putting the ply on top. I have squeaks and screws don't really help. No biggie though.

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    Only thing I can add is to check with real lumberyard (not a box store) about what size and spacing of floor joists you will need. An ATV can weight up to 750 lbs or more and that will need to be a consideration for floor framing.
     
  13. Dubbya

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    Anything 2x8 or larger at 12"oc should be plenty if you're spanning 12'.
     
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    This is the inside of our prefab shed. If you see our shed on fire, you probably ought just take a few steps back. :p
     
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    I'm speechless! That would be one crazy, and expensive fire. If zombies start coming I'm rushing to your house!


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    That's impressive. And I would be taking more than a few steps back ha.
     
  17. Dubbya

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    What is this... your freshman year?

    I see a few things in your shed, that were once in my basement... You want to know the LOT# on that Varget? :D
     
  18. Christine

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    You know what's not in there? That other pound of varget. :mad:


    :lol:


    Besides... that's just the shed. ;)
     
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    The gang answered most of your questions already... besides that, the best advice I can give you from your line of questioning is to watch this video series on YouTube. It's the one I learned everything from when I was building my treehouse. It's 15 or 16 different parts, so you can skip around to the one(s) you need to watch the most, or again, when the time comes...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXUbsc7Pu4E
     

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