Aluminum

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  1. Muzzy Man

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    I am switching back to 2219 aluminum shafts. I don't mind slower arrows and I never had a problem with bending arrows; unless I shot el-cheapos. The silence and penetration of a heavier arrow is worth the sacrifice of some decreased speed at distances I never shoot anyway. I have never not had a 2219 give me complete penetration.

    A dozen uncut XX75... bare shafts are around $60.00.
     
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    I've killed more deer with XX75 2117's than all the other arrows I've ever used, combined. As soon as I break all my Gold Tip's for my 60lb setup I'm going back to the 2117's. I still use 2018's with my 50lb setup and never fail to pass through deer unless I hit solid bone.
     
  3. Parker70

    Parker70 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I've really thought about going back to the old xx75's as well. Nothing prettier than a blood slick aluminum arrow. And yes the quietness is a big plus.
     
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    I shot xx75 2114s off an overdraw setup thru the start of the year on one of my bows. IMHO, they are very underrated, good, inexpensive and have been around for a very long time.

    ~Bill
     
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    grnhd Die Hard Bowhunter

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    More power to you, but I'm never going back to aluminum arrows again. Carbon arrows are so much stronger and stay straight. I shot 4 deer with the same arrow last year, I could never do that with aluminum. If you want a heavy arrow you can always add it to a carbon.
    To each is own, I hope you kill a bunch of deer with aluminum arrows.
     
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    yeah, kick it old school w/ Muzzys and Easton aluminum!
     
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    I did not know alum was that high...
     
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    I went back to aluminum last year and I'm very glad I did. I've never had issues with bent arrows that a lot of people report and I like having a heavy hard hitting arrow.
     
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    Never shot them but like heavies arrows myself. What are the pros and cons to them.
    My Easton dangerous games are about 700 grains already.
     
  10. Muzzy Man

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    2219 shafts are 13.8 GPI. Aren't Easton Dangerous Game already an aluminum/carbon composite? As far as comparing to what you are shooting... you probably have the advantage except maybe when it comes to pricing. One con to aluminum is managing FOC. Carbon is more flexible there... although it can be done. I will come in right at 700 grains total weight when I finish building them.
     
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    Me neither... as long as you get good ones.
     
  12. Muzzy Man

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    Thanks... me too.
     
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    From what I hear about Gold Tips... that may take a while.
     
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    Pros: Cheaper than most carbon (Victorys and Beman Hunters are about same price.) Hard hitting. Quieter on the draw. Easy to custom build your own.

    Cons: Slower. Bend. Dent. Snap easier especially in extreme cold.
     
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    anyone ever shot the x7 eclipse arrow, are they not the same as the xx78 shaft
     
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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    I am more than likely going to use aluminum arrows during the early Sept doe season. I have some tuned up and shooting well right now. I may even just use them the entire year.
     
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    I have never used aluminum arrows. What is the typical arrow weight with BH? I know my arrows are around 450 grains that is heavy in my book. They hit plenty hard and keep on ticking deer after deer.


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  18. Muzzy Man

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    The aluminum weights vary widely depending on your application. The numbers are indicative of the actual size and weight. 2219s are 22/64ths inch in diameter with a wall thickness of .019. Superlites are usually slightly larger in diameter with a much thinner wall. IMO, carbons are a better choice than the Superlites. I shot 2512s once and hated them... they were noisy and easily dented... but very light... comparable to the lightest carbons. The heavier end of quality aluminum requires a great deal of effort to bend or break... even across my knee. I have never had one snap and hunted an entire season with one arrow... I shot five bucks with that one arrow that year... plus a couple more the next The arrow weight of the 2219s is 13.8 gpi. a complete arrow for me at 30" will come in 700-800 grains depending on whether I add weight to improve FOC but it does drop my arrow speed significantly.

    One huge positive of heavier arrows is that they are not guided by broadheads as easily as carbon. I have not tried mini vanes on one but I may do so for giggles.
     
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    I think so. 7178 T9 Alloy. They don't seem to make them in 2219s though... which I don't understand. 2219s are the shaft of choice for X-bowyers.
     
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    easton dont make xx78 anymore what a shame,it was a very good shaft.
     

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