Welp done with the bloodrunners!

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  1. ISiman/OH

    ISiman/OH Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Nothing against the broadhead but I found out the hard way this morning that my bow just isn't pushing enough KE to shoot these things with 2 inch cut. Shot a Doe this morning at 15 yards slightly quartering away. Needless to say I didn't see the 1/2 branch coming off the sapling in front of the deer. Arrow clipped the branch and hit about 4-5" back from where I wanted it. As the doe is running off I see I only have about 6 inches of penetration. I really should have known better with my set up not to try and use such a big cut broadhead, but I guess you live and learn. Everyone wish me luck on finding this deer. And this afternoon I will doing a head change and that will probably keep me out of the woods until I get a chance to resight in.
     
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    You do realize that when your arrow hits a branch and deflects that it robs it of quite a bit of the energy it's carrying, right? Additionally, it causes your arrow to not impact the animal squarely, which further reduces penetration. I would image you wouldn't have gotten much different results even with a small cut on contact head.

    Anyways - good luck finding her! Give it some time first before you go out.
     
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    Good luck finding your deer. Assuming your bow Is tuned correctly and If you stick with the same bh weight you shouldn't have to re sight your bow In at all.
     
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    Your right BUT If you have yourself a heavier arrow and more Importantly a great FOC more times then not (depending on the size of branch) your penetration won't be as effected as much but still effected some.
     
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    Yeah i understand that a lot of the energy was lost on the tree branch, but im still leaning with going towards a smaller cutting diameter head. Just don't think my bow is pushing enough KE for these huge broadheads, i just want to play it safe. I really should have never been using them from the start.
     
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    What's your draw weight, length, and arrow weight?

    Good luck on the doe!

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    I've been shooting the same arrow set up for three years and up until this year have had greart results. Makes me think that i really need to change to a heavier arrow broadhead combo. Just haven't had the time to do a total retune this past summer.
     
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    Im shooting a 08 Ross Cardiac.
    60lbs
    28" draw
    About a 365 gr arrow
     
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    Good luck on ur search.
     
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    These new mechanicals with their 2+ inch cuts are getting people in trouble because they do not have the bow to shoot them and provide enough horsepower to push them through deer. HOWEVER, any modern compound shooting at least 60lbs should be able to provide enough energy for heads that big.

    But I still go back to the question of whether we really need heads that big in the first place. Case in point, I killed two deer last week with a 100gr Slick Trick Standard ( 1" cut) Both bled out like crazy and the double lung shot ran a total of 28 yards before falling over. The hole those little heads put in both deer was pretty impressive. The other beauty of those heads is that a blade replacement is all thats needed and they're ready to go again (all steel, not aluminum)
     
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    Yeah, what he said.

    You lost all of your energy after hitting the branch. If you don't hit that limb you probably get a pass thru right where you aimed.
     
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    Take it as it is, but...

    I would look at bumping up to a 420 gr+ arrow and shoot a fixed head. With a tuned bow you will have no accuracy issues with a fixed blade and the heavier arrow will improve penetration, forgiveness and yield a quieter shot.

    Wish I still had my Cardiac, loved that bow!
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    I know it probably was not the heads fault but mine for not seeing the branch, but i have made up my mind that since i need to buy new broadheads anyway ( used all three on two does and a yote) im not going to be going with bloodrunners. So what do you all suggest? i want something that flys quite and smaller cutting diameter. Side note: thats another thing i didn't like about the bloodrunners was the noise they made it flight.
     
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    find that doe!
     
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    This i plan on doing for sure! but its just not going to happen this season.

    And i know the Cardiac is a great bow, and its a heck of a shooter too. Really wish they still made a model similar to it.
     
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    I'm a muzzy guy myself. The 4 blade 100 grs always give me great results. They will fly like FPs out of a well tuned bow.
     
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    muzzy or slicktricks...keep it simple
     
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    G5 Torrent. Almost the indentical bow. G5 originally machined the Ross bows.

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    I knew G5 was doing their bows back in like 09 but do you know of anything for recent?
     
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    Ross went out of business for a bit. Sold the company to Bowtech illegally then G5 won the manufacturing rights and started Quest Archery. Ross is starting on some new bows again, not a big fan of the news ones.

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