Higher FOC or Lighter arrow?

Hi All,

Been struggling with arrows tuning on my Prime Rival with 65# limbs. My DL is 30'' and arrows cut at 30.5 so I need a stiff spined arrow. I setting my bow up for my Elk this year and trying to get the weight between 450 and 500 grains and still have an FOC above 11%. I also like the thinner 5mm diameter shafts for penetration.


So My question is using Eastons 295 Deep Six arrows with a 100 grain tip they weight about 500 grains w lighted nocks and the FOC is about 8%-9% and it's a heavy arrow. If I put on a 125g broad head the FOC is about 11% but the arrow now weights about 525 grains which can be a big deal when shooting longer distances.

Any thoughts on staying lighter with a lower FOC or higher weight for a higher FOC?

Thanks

 

I honestly would add inserts to bump up to around 14% FOC but that is just me, I am a huge advocate of high FOC.

 

Thanks, yes so am I and I would really like it around 14% myself but when only pulling 65# they fly really slow.

 

...but penetrate so well! :D

 

I'd go with the brass inserts for the 5mm fmj's. That would hit like a hammer.

 

I've been shooting them for years with inserts at 534 grains but as you can see in last years Elk hunt, my arrow flew right under an Elk I thought was 60 yards and was actually just over 65 yards.

I think my perfect arrow would be a 300 spined, 5mm with a weight of 475 grains including a 50g insert, 100g tip and lighted nock. I think that would give me and FOC around 14%. So far I haven't found such an arrow.

Bowhunting Elk in New Mexico - YouTube

 

Have both Easton Hexx is 7.9 gr pr inch add the h insert and your head and you will have the max foc you can get for your setup. Other arrows will have the same or less gr per inch that is how I start with my arrow selection

 

Seems like some lighter arrows are about all you can do to get both the FOC and weight that you want

 

Yeah, they may be my only option. I've been shooting X nocked arrows so long I've got lots of lighted X nocks so I was trying not to go back to H nock. Plus I really like the penetration of the smaller diameter shafts.

Thanks

 

Did some checking and you could try easton axis's then you can keep the X nock. There is only 1.3 difference in GPI but with a 30.5" your arrow will be about a 40 gr lighter. I know id hate to just give up all my practice nocks (burned out nocks)

 

Andrew,
Personally, I'd be less concerned about FOC and more concerned about the trueness of flight. I didn't notice what broadhead you're using/planning (it may be in your sig but Tapatalk strips). Some heads simply fly better/easier with some setups.

Any concerns with the bh? Fixed 2 blade, 3, 4? Mechanical?

Also is your elk hunt expected to be timber or more open...I'm curious.

 

BEA Rampages.
30.5" X 8.7 GPI= 265 Gr
75 gr HITS +12 grain VPA collar= 87gr
100 grain heads
30 gr fletching and X nock

Total 482 Total..... FOC Apx 15%

 

I've got 340 Axis but they take a 125 grain point at 501g total weight and only 11% FOC:-/

 

I like the two blade mechanical Wasp Jak-Knife or Viper Tricks. The Elk hunt is in the same open area as in my Video. Unit 52 in New Mexico.

 

Never heard of them but they look great. Thanks They may be my new Elk arrows.

 

I am using them for my moose hunt this year.

27" 340 BEA Rampages
75 gr brass HITS, 12 grain flanged collar
3 TT Max stealth vanes 18 grains
Easton X nock 10 grains
125 Solids

Total 461gr with 18%FOC

 

My only question was the straightness but I see you can get them in .001.

I'm sold. How long have you been shooting them and where are you hunting your Moose? I looking for a moose hunt for 2017.

 

I don't mean to go off topic but how do you like the 125 solids? I'm thinking of going to that head this fall but from pics and videos the 125 looks massive compared to the 100 width wise.


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Started shooting them over the winter. So far I like them however I have made some upgrades.
I didn't like the nocks that cam with so I switched to X nocks. They also come with SS half outs, not being a fan of half outs I switched to brass HITS, and added a flanged VPA collar to protect the front of the shaft.
Another option is BEA Spartans which will would be the smallest shaft that will except a standard size insert. They are like .224 ID ...so 5mm FMJ or ACC size shafts.


Our moose hunt is going to be on the Rock. I am taking my father on a hunt in Newfoundland.

 

They are much larger profile. I don't have not experienced it I can however I can see them like any other large fixed blade head be touchy for someone with sloppy form.

If your concerned I would suggest going with the 100's and just using more insert weight.

At longer distances the 100 grain solids are the best flying fixed blade head I ever shot.