Someone help me understand something...

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by MnHunterr, Jan 21, 2015.

  1. MnHunterr

    MnHunterr Legendary Woodsman

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    Read this article and what these low life people have done and explain how they are only charged with misdemeanors and 0 felonies. They should lose their privilege to hunt for life... This is the kind of thing that just grinds my gears.

    4 charged after Minnesota DNR poaching probe yields dozens of guns, 28 deer antler sets

     
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    I get frustrated as well but it is what it is. People without a drivers license get multiple DWI's as well.
     
  3. Skywalker

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    The number one problem with our justice system is that the punishment generally does not fit the crime. If there's no real punishment, what keeps people from committing crimes? Their conscience? Well, lot of folks don't even know what that is.
     
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    MnHunterr Legendary Woodsman

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    This is exactly the case with these people. They already had their hunting privileges taken away from a shining incident in 2013!
     
  5. uncljohn

    uncljohn Weekend Warrior

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    Sorry but as it pertains to the law, harvesting a deer out of season is not THAT bad of an act to be classified as a felony. Only a hunter would see the act as egregious, whereas most legislators are not hunters.

    Regardless of how its classified, there certainly could be a penalty of losing hunting privilege for life, but that's a state decision.
     
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    One would think if the restitution is over a $ threshold it should be a felony.
     
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    I totally agree! It should be treated as theft with the value of 'stolen' property determining misdemeanor vs felony.
     
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    Your right, Poaching "A" deer out of season should not be a felony. But, that's not what we are talking about here. Where talking about the complete lack of respect for any games laws. Poaching, Hunting out of season, Hunting at night, Most likely hunting from the road. The cumulative nature of this type of crime SHOULD result in felony charges including some jail time, loss of hunting privileges and lose of the right to own a firearm. Clearly this person was not responsible enough to handle these privileges so he no longer deserves them.
     
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    No wonder I couldn't kill a nice buck, this crew was hoggin them all for themselves !
     
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    Public hanging would be a good start.
     
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    The problem is also the D/A who's prosecuting the case. They tend to lump these all the charges together to get a plea deal, particularly if there is a guilty plea. What the state needs to do is call for consecutive sentences. (Time for each separate offense.) Its not just the game laws. They do it with regular crimes (felonys) as well. Hopefully, the hit'em over the head with restitution. When they don't pay. They violate an order of the court. Which, is a felony. Ironic.......
     
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    This **** makes me sick. I honestly would not be suprised if the guy was friends with the owners of the neighboring farm I used to hunt in Maynard.

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    How do you determine the monetary value of a dead deer? By the pound? You can't get them for the value of a mount because they didn't steal a mount.
     
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    You're just adding up a bunch of separate poaching acts. As someone noted, its really based on the DA's position and how far he/she is willing to take it. "Lack of respect for game laws" is not a felony either.
     
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    Estimate. Base it on estimated cost to raise/release replacements.
     
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    Minnesota puts a value on trophy deer for restitution.
     
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    How do you come up with the cost of raising a deer? And who actually raises deer besides deer farms? I'm pretty sure there would be complaints if several deer from a deer farm were released into the wild to replace ones that got poached.
     
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    It's not rocket science. And you don't have to actually raise/release, just come up with an estimated value so the criminal can be charged for the crime they commited.
     
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    They got off easy. Their hunting privileges should be revoked for at least 5 years.
     
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    So that would be the fines they pay for whatever crime they've commited. Some are higher then other but some crimes are more severe than others.
     

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