What group at 20 yards?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by DukesArcher, Aug 19, 2014.

  1. DukesArcher

    DukesArcher Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2014
    Posts:
    63
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    What kind of grouping should a half decent archer being making at 20 yards with a compound bow? I can do about 3 group at 20. But my bow isn't great and my arrows aren't matched. 20 is my max hunting distance right now. A kill zone on a wild hog is about a 6 inch circle right?
     
  2. bowhunter448

    bowhunter448 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2012
    Posts:
    3,706
    Likes Received:
    249
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Northeastern NV
    I like to have 2" at 20, 30" at 30, etc.
     
  3. tacklebox

    tacklebox Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2012
    Posts:
    9,350
    Likes Received:
    1,125
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    Location:
    Central KS
    If I shot groups at 20 yds I wouldn't have any arrows......

    but to better answer your question I'd say a 3" group is plenty lethal
     
  4. SWitchBacKXT

    SWitchBacKXT Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2012
    Posts:
    4,272
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Central IL
    20 yard groups get expensive.
     
  5. Chris1982

    Chris1982 Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    May 5, 2013
    Posts:
    631
    Likes Received:
    3
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Rural NW Louisiana
    A 3 inch group is good enough to kill, but if you want to be accurate farther out I highly suggest getting matching arrows.
     
  6. LittleChief

    LittleChief Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2010
    Posts:
    11,998
    Likes Received:
    41,078
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Location:
    SE Missouri
    You really relax your standards between 20 yards and 30 yards, don't you? :lol:
     
  7. bowhunter448

    bowhunter448 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2012
    Posts:
    3,706
    Likes Received:
    249
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Northeastern NV
    Eh, just a little. :lol:
     
  8. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Posts:
    27,658
    Likes Received:
    48,825
    Dislikes Received:
    33
    First off, I like that you seem to be an honest and realistic person. I hunted with older/outdated bows for years and still got the job done, and so will you. Under stress, if you can pick up your bow, aim, and hit your target within a 4 inch group at 20 yards, you are good. A lot of people can sit around and lob arrows in a 2-3 inch group at 20 yads, but under stress they fall apart.
     
  9. smctitan

    smctitan Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Posts:
    2,038
    Likes Received:
    328
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Howard County, MD
    Agreed. Sometimes there is a big deference between an archer and a hunter.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  10. kb1785

    kb1785 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Posts:
    1,019
    Likes Received:
    272
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    I have seen people which could knock the eye out of a gnat in a target situation but badly miss a chip shot at a deer. I guy I know I have personally helped him track 4 different deer that he shot and that he said he "smoked". We never recovered any of them after hours and hours of searching but when target shooting this guy is lights out. I advised him to get some meds to calm himself down.

    I would not worry about 2 - 3 inch groupings as they will suffice for nearly any game you tackle.
     
  11. copperhead

    copperhead Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2014
    Posts:
    3,477
    Likes Received:
    700
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Apex, North Carolina
    I usually like the 1 inch per 10 yards rule. When I was a kid the standard was as long as you could consistently hit a 9 inch pie pan you were good. Thats how many determined there max effective range. Personally I like 40 yards or less so around 4 to 5 inches. Good luck!
     
  12. Pro V1

    Pro V1 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Posts:
    1,380
    Likes Received:
    6
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    ND
    The exact diameter of the vitals of a mature whitetail.
     
  13. BukFvr21

    BukFvr21 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2014
    Posts:
    1,118
    Likes Received:
    123
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    East Central IL
    Just keep doing what your doing making every arrow count. If you start slapping arrows together, you've got as tight a group as you'll ever need.
     
  14. Coop

    Coop Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2012
    Posts:
    3,541
    Likes Received:
    74
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Springtown TX
    Groups are nice to verify form and consitency but for hunting practice if I can walk out to my range (pick a random distance) with one arrow and ALWAYS put that first shot in the vitals I am good to go. Even one miss and I don't consider myself effective at that range.

    I don't practice this way only. But once or twice a week I do my one arrow test. I've known guys who say it takes them a shot or two to warm up. Well that is ok in a target setting, but not on wild game.
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2014
  15. CJCullen

    CJCullen Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2014
    Posts:
    623
    Likes Received:
    1
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    South East, WI
    Yes exactly! I do the same thing but my first arrow out of my practice session I'll pick a random spot in the yard and not even range it then from there I will go to my generic yard markers.
     
  16. JasonOhio2018

    JasonOhio2018 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Posts:
    2,586
    Likes Received:
    1,448
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    North East Ohio
    Agreed!
     
  17. tynimiller

    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    Posts:
    12,978
    Likes Received:
    4,677
    Dislikes Received:
    5
    It doesn't matter where you 2nd, 3rd or 4th arrow hits....it all depends on arrow #1
     
  18. Pro V1

    Pro V1 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Posts:
    1,380
    Likes Received:
    6
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    ND
    That's a fact!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  19. Sticknstringarchery

    Sticknstringarchery Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Posts:
    4,869
    Likes Received:
    3
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    China Grove, NC
    This is why I don't shoot groups at 20 anymore. [​IMG]

    But, as most have mentioned, 1" for every 10 yards seems to be the answer.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     

Share This Page