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    well this has gone somewhere else, but personally i felt like i had to shoot something like the rage this year just because i couldnt get the muzzy's to fly like i wanted them to and this caused loss of confidence for me. last year was my first year hunting and if i didnt learn anything but having confidence in your equipment it was a year well spent. i will be trying to get back to using the muzzys this year as my dad and grandpa use them and they love them. just need to get them to fly the way i want them to!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    well this has gone somewhere else, but personally i felt like i had to shoot something like the rage this year just because i couldnt get the muzzy's to fly like i wanted them to and this caused loss of confidence for me. last year was my first year hunting and if i didnt learn anything but having confidence in your equipment it was a year well spent. i will be trying to get back to using the muzzys this year as my dad and grandpa use them and they love them. just need to get them to fly the way i want them to!!!!
    That is exactly the wrong reason to use an expandable. If a muzzy will not fly like a dart from your bow, it is not tuned properly. A bow that is not tuned properly and a large expandable are a recipe for disaster. Unfortunately, you are among the majority of Rage shooters. The head itself is not horrible, but shot from a poor setup, it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine View Post
    I received a response from a guy high up in muzzy who is good, honest guy.
    He said that muzzy doesn't like this ad either and they are trying hard to protect their integrity.
    He said that marketing is not controlled muzzy so all they can do is protest too.

    Imagine how bad that would suck to not have control of how your products are marketed. Particularly a company that never jumped on the expandable bandwagon.

    He said he would forward my complaints. I recommend others also let muzzy know they dont like this direction so those complaints get forwarded too.
    If you have contact information, I would gladly express my concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    well this has gone somewhere else, but personally i felt like i had to shoot something like the rage this year just because i couldnt get the muzzy's to fly like i wanted them to and this caused loss of confidence for me. last year was my first year hunting and if i didnt learn anything but having confidence in your equipment it was a year well spent. i will be trying to get back to using the muzzys this year as my dad and grandpa use them and they love them. just need to get them to fly the way i want them to!!!!
    ya rages arent worth your time in my opinion because of their failures that the blades have
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    well this has gone somewhere else, but personally i felt like i had to shoot something like the rage this year just because i couldnt get the muzzy's to fly like i wanted them to and this caused loss of confidence for me. last year was my first year hunting and if i didnt learn anything but having confidence in your equipment it was a year well spent. i will be trying to get back to using the muzzys this year as my dad and grandpa use them and they love them. just need to get them to fly the way i want them to!!!!
    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hyjack your thread. I agree with the others, tune your bow first. Personally I use CoC heads and love them, but there is nothing wrong with your muzzy broadheads. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Fix the real problem or like fletch said, it won't matter what broadhead you shoot, your problem is a tuning issue with the bow.

    take it to a proshop and tell them you want to do some paper tuning and the problem you're having.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    well this has gone somewhere else, but personally i felt like i had to shoot something like the rage this year just because i couldnt get the muzzy's to fly like i wanted them to and this caused loss of confidence for me. last year was my first year hunting and if i didnt learn anything but having confidence in your equipment it was a year well spent. i will be trying to get back to using the muzzys this year as my dad and grandpa use them and they love them. just need to get them to fly the way i want them to!!!!
    I use about 3 different heads when I hunt. I shoot my Muzzy mx3 in certain stands...and Rage chisels out of certain stands. This year I'm gonna hunt with Swhackers instead of rage....but still had good luck with Rage....but there blades seem to easy to break. When it comes to fixed blade...I love the mx3's. Either those or Thunderhead razors.
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    Well thanks for the suggestions. Will have my bow tuned properly this year lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootlegger View Post
    I use about 3 different heads when I hunt. I shoot my Muzzy mx3 in certain stands...and Rage chisels out of certain stands. This year I'm gonna hunt with Swhackers instead of rage....but still had good luck with Rage....but there blades seem to easy to break. When it comes to fixed blade...I love the mx3's. Either those or Thunderhead razors.
    ya the mx3 is all i use now i tried the rages, too many mechanical failures and ive tried the grim reapers but nothing amounts up to the muzzy mx3
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    Personally I love muzzys. Not just for the dependability but for the availability. I do a week long camp every year and it seems that every shop or store that sells anything to do with archery has some muzzys. It's nice not having to go searching every shop to find some new or unusual broad head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLINGnMISS View Post
    Personally I love muzzys. Not just for the dependability but for the availability. I do a week long camp every year and it seems that every shop or store that sells anything to do with archery has some muzzys. It's nice not having to go searching every shop to find some new or unusual broad head.
    ya i have noticed that
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowtech life View Post
    ya the mx3 is all i use now i tried the rages, too many mechanical failures and ive tried the grim reapers but nothing amounts up to the muzzy mx3
    My mx3's fly great on my carbon express Mayhem Hunter 350's. It may be due to the weight forward they have....not sure. All I know is they didn't fly all that great on my Beman ics hunters that I use to have. A guy told me to try the mayhem hunters...boy was he ever right.
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    MUZZY MUZZY MUZZY MUZZY lol nuff said. jk but i love mine and i wont be changing Ever until muzzy has another amazing 4 blade. But personal preference like everything else in everywhere. but others input is always a good helper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootlegger View Post
    My mx3's fly great on my carbon express Mayhem Hunter 350's. It may be due to the weight forward they have....not sure. All I know is they didn't fly all that great on my Beman ics hunters that I use to have. A guy told me to try the mayhem hunters...boy was he ever right.
    ya i use the carbon express mayhem hunter 350's also
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    Quote Originally Posted by fletch920 View Post
    As a cure-all for poor shooting. As a magic bullet type head that would kill any animal regardless of where it was hit. "Expand your kill zone." "Like an axe through an animal." Crap like that.....

    At this point, I am positive that there is no other head responsible for more lost and wounded game in the history of bowhunting. Unless you consider the few thousand years that stone heads were used. Then, to top it all off, they started to market a low KE head. Just asenine in my opinion. Absolutely the most unethical marketing campaign in the history of the sport. And then they got suckers to pay three times what those disposable, rubberband wearing heads are worth.


    so the head is responsible for the wounded deer......false and quite ignorant.......i could wound a deer just as easy with my muzzys or any of my other heads as i could with a rage.....it's the hunter.....it's not the head regardless of what ads say......if you don't like the ads that's fine but don't blame the head for some people's lack of common sense when it comes to shooting at an animal......even though i don't like using them it is one of the number one selling heads for a reason and for the people that i know that use them it has nothing to do with the campaign that rage puts forth it's more along the lines of a massive hole through both lungs that has much less of a chance of getting "plugged" up like a smaller cut could do
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    Quote Originally Posted by BACKSTRAPASSASSIN View Post
    so the head is responsible for the wounded deer......false and quite ignorant.......i could wound a deer just as easy with my muzzys or any of my other heads as i could with a rage.....it's the hunter.....it's not the head regardless of what ads say......if you don't like the ads that's fine but don't blame the head for some people's lack of common sense when it comes to shooting at an animal......even though i don't like using them it is one of the number one selling heads for a reason and for the people that i know that use them it has nothing to do with the campaign that rage puts forth it's more along the lines of a massive hole through both lungs that has much less of a chance of getting "plugged" up like a smaller cut could do
    Putting words in my mouth not only makes you look ignorant. I proves you haven't a clue as to what I was saying. I really dont have the time or patience to explain it to you, so I will leave it at that. Most folks here know exactly what I meant. Maybe one of them will be kind enough to fill you in.
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