Hey guys i just bought my girlfriend a new pse chaos shes starting off at 30Lbs for draw weight. I am just wondering how many pounds you guys think she will need to be able to pull back in order to kill a deer this fall. i am assuming its a lot more diffrent with the new bows then back when i was just starting off. cant explain how excited i am to have her in the woods with me this fall.
30 Lbs is enough weight to deliver an arrow to kill a deer. You have to select the right broadhead and keep your shots close and broadside but if she does it properly, she will kill deer with a 30 pound bow.
I've always recommended trying to get to 35lbs minimum. Not to say less won't get the job done, just kinda what I've always said. I agree with above post though, if the hunter does the time and takes a good shot and if they let the deer get in close 30lbs will or should do the job.
Each state is different but many states require 40#. Ky has no minimum weight requirement. My son has gotten a passthrough with a 38# bow at 24" draw. Of course he was using cut on contact magnus stinger buzzcuts. ( 2 blade with 2 bleeders) Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2
This legal requirement varies by state. We discuss this at our archery club a lot though. One of our experts reported that the Native American Indians used bows in the range of 35 lbs and were able to bring down buffalo with them, although to pull this off they had to chase after the buffalo mounted on their ponies and pierce them several times from about 2 or 3 yards away until the buffalo finally bled to death. So from that historic perspective I tend to agree with Crabtree, that a lite bow at a close enough distance will kill a deer. But as the DFG officials tend to disagree, you will need to look up the specific requirement in the hunters' brochure for your state. Notice the penetration of her arrows on the bales you shoot at your archery range. The penetration of a broadhead on a mammal carcass should be about the same. That will tell you a lot. If they barely penetrate, then that tells you she needs a stronger bow.
The key will be a perfectly tuned bow and arrows. The arrows should have a strong wall, meaning a thick walled aluminum or a carbon shaft with a little weight to it. Imo for her an FOC around 20% would be best. My son is shooting easton axis 600's with 75 grain brass inserts now from a 43# bow and 25" draw and slamming targets. Hasn't hunted with this setup yet. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2
Notice his arrow on the left, mine on the right. His arrow is 2" shorter than mine. My bow is 58# at 28" draw. My arrows are 372 grain with around 12%-13% FOC. His are 387 grain with 20% FOC. His penetration is about the same as mine. This was on all targets all day. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2
The PSE Chaos FC is what my wife started with as well. Her bow was set on #37 and 25", but that's good for a girl her size, she's around 115lbs. Back to the point, she killed a doe her first time hunting with the Chaos and I don't imagine 37# and 30# would be a huge difference maker. 7lbs is only about 14fps difference, which isn't typically enough to determine dead deer vs. injured deer. Shot placement is what counts.
Unless you know 100% for sure, don't let her go in the woods with 30lb. Don't rely on the website. Get a RULE BOOK and read the archery specific rules. They are in there!! Believe me, I know from experience. The number one saying I have heard from GW's and cops is "Ignorance is no excuse for violating the law". And by the way, the judges see it that way also!! --- I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?4noyyg
Check the laws there but i know a few states have a minimum of 40 lbs So what i did for my wife was every week I would add a half turn without telling her. Before she knew it she went from 30 to 40. I would just tell her that after not shooting for a few days it will feel harder to pull. Yep i lied to her Sent from my LG-E739 using Tapatalk 2
Thats fine IF their form and technique doesn't suffer. Watch how they draw. One of the first signs of being over bowed is leaning back while drawing. Sometimes they don't do it the first few shots but as soon as some fatigue sets in, it shows up. My son can pull 50# but right now he is at 43# because he can shoot it all day without form issues. That translates into being able to draw the bow easily and correctly when it's 30 degree outside. My point is, don't get caught up in poundage. Focus on the setup, tune and arrow combo and making good shots. The pic i showed above of him was after 29 targets and a mile walk. It was also a 28 yard target. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2
