Went to the local shop today. Shot the Helim, Victor 32 and Carbon Element. After a few hours of shooting and pacing around I decided to go with the Mathews. All excellent bows but the Mathews just felt better in my hand and more balanced. The Hoyt seemed like a smoother bow on the draw. Pretty funny the guy helping me out shot a Hoyt carbon. When I was done shooting the helim I told him this is such a smooth bow, have you shot it? He said nope and I don't want to, I just ordered a new Hoyt and I don't want to regret it. Just a funny story no one freak out.